Conscient Podcast: é37 lebeau

Photo : Yanick Macdonald

Pour moi, ça passe par plus de collaboration. C’est ça qui est intéressant aussi. Vraiment passer du modèle ‘Take Make Waste’ à ‘Care Dare Share’. Pour moi, ça dit tellement de choses. Je pense qu’on doit considérer tout ce qu’on a dans le domaine artistique comme un bien commun dont on doit collectivement prendre soin. Souvent, au début, on parlait en termes de faire le moins de tort possible à l’environnement, ne pas nuire, c’est souvent comme ça que l’on présente le développement durable, puis en faisant des recherches, et en m’inspirant, entre autres, de ce qui se fait à la Fondation Ellen MacArthur  en Angleterre, en économie circulaire, je me suis rendu compte qu’eux se demandent comment faire en sorte de nourrir une nouvelle réalité. Comment créer de l’art qui soit régénératif? Qui nourrisse quelque chose.

anne-catherine lebeau, balado conscient, 3 mai 2021

J’ai eu la chance de connaître Anne-Catherine Lebeau dans le cadre de mon travail sur les politiques en environnement au Conseil des arts du Canada. J’ai aussi participé avec Anne-Catherine à un panel sur l’art durable organisé par le dramaturge Daniel Danis lors du festival Mois multi à Québec le 9 février 2020. Je l’ai vu mettre sur pied avec Jasmine Catudal, Geneviève Levasseur et Isabelle Brodeur, le projet Ã‰coscéno, en 2018, qui est, à mon avis, un très bon modèle d’une activité ‘économie circulaire’ dans les arts. Anne-Catherine explique les origines de cette entreprise et de son parcours de leadership écologique lors de notre conversation à distance qui a eu lieu le 3 mai entre Ottawa et Montréal.

Je remercie Anne-Catherine d’avoir pris le temps d’échanger avec moi et de partager sa vision, sa passion pour l’art et l’environnement et son très grand savoir-faire organisationnel.

Vous trouverez de plus amples informations sur Anne-Catherine à  et


I think we need more collaboration. That’s what’s interesting. Moving from a ‘Take Make Waste’ model to ‘Care Dare Share’. To me, that says a lot. I think we need to look at everything we have in the arts as a common good that we need to collectively take care of. Often, at the beginning, we talked in terms of doing as little harm as possible to the environment, not harming it, that’s often how sustainable development was presented, then by doing research, and by being inspired, among other things, by what is done at the Ellen MacArthur Foundation in England, around circular economies, I realized that they talk about how to nourish a new reality. How do you create art that is regenerative? Art that nourishes something.

anne-catherine lebeau, conscient podast, May 3, 2021

I had the chance to get to know Anne-Catherine Lebeau through my work on environmental policy at the Canada Council for the Arts. I also participated with Anne-Catherine in a panel on sustainable art organized by playwright Daniel Danis during the Mois multi festival in Quebec City on February 9, 2020. I saw her set up, along with Jasmine Catudal, Geneviève Levasseur and Isabelle Brodeur, the Ã‰coscéno project, in 2018, which I think is a good example of a circular economy activity in the arts. Anne-Catherine explains the origins of this venture and her journey of ecological leadership during our remote conversation on May 3 between Ottawa and Montreal.

I would like to thank Anne-Catherine for taking the time to chat with me and share her vision, her passion for art and the environment and her great organizational skills.

You can find more information about Anne-Catherine at  and

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About the Concient Podcast from Claude Schryer

The conscient podcast / balado conscient is a series of conversations about art, conscience and the ecological crisis. This podcast is bilingual (in either English or French). The language of the guest determines the language of the podcast. Episode notes are translated but not individual interviews.

I started the conscient project in 2020 as a personal learning journey and knowledge sharing exercise. It has been rewarding, and sometimes surprising.

The term ‘conscient’ is defined as ‘being aware of one’s surroundings, thoughts and motivations’. My touchstone for the podcast is episode 1, e01 terrified, based on an essay I wrote in May 2019, where I share my anxiety about the climate crisis and my belief that arts and culture can play a critical role in raising public awareness about environmental issues. The conscient podcast / balado conscient follows up on my (2016–2019) project: 175, 3-minute audio and video field recordings that explore mindful listening.

Season 1 (May to October 2020) explored how the arts contribute to environmental awareness and action. I produced 3 episodes in French and 15 in English. The episodes cover a wide range of content, including activism, impact measurement, gaming, arts funding, cross-sectoral collaborations, social justice, artistic practices, etc. Episodes 8 to 17 were recorded while I was at the Creative Climate Leadership USA course in Arizona in March 2020 (led by Julie’s Bicycle). Episode 18 is a compilation of highlights from these conversations.

Season 2 (March 2021 – ) explores the concept of reality and is about accepting reality, working through ecological grief and charting a path forward. The first episode of season 2 (e19 reality) mixes quotations from 28 authors with field recordings from simplesoundscapes and from my 1998 soundscape composition, Au dernier vivant les biens. One of my findings from this episode is that ‘I now see, and more importantly, I now feel in my bones, ‘the state of things as they actually exist’, without social filters or unsustainable stories blocking the way’. e19 reality touches upon 7 topics: our perception of reality, the possibility of human extinction, ecological anxiety and ecological grief, hope, arts, storytelling and the wisdom of indigenous cultures. The rest of season 2 features interviews with thought leaders about their responses and reactions to e19 reality.

my professional services

I’ve been retired from the Canada Council for the Arts since September 15, 2020 where I served as a senior strategic advisor in arts granting (2016-2020) and manager of the Inter-Arts Office (1999-2015). My focus in (quasi) retirement is environmental issues within my area of expertise in arts and culture, in particular in acoustic ecology. I’m open to become involved in projects that align with my values and that move forward environmental concerns. Feel free to email me for a conversation :

acknowledgement of eco-responsibility

I acknowledge that the production of the conscient podcast / balado conscient produces carbon. I try to minimize this carbon footprint by being as efficient as possible, including using GreenGeeks as my web server and acquiring carbon offsets for my equipment and travel activities from BullFrog Power and Less.

a word about privilege and bias

While recording episode 19 ‘reality’, I heard elements of ‘privilege’ in my voice that I had not noticed before. It sounded a bit like ‘ecological mansplaining’. I realize that, in spite of good intentions, I need to work my way through issues of privilege (of all kinds) and unconscious bias the way I did through ecological anxiety and grief during the fall of 2020. My re-education is ongoing.

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