Complexity is the world built of relationships and itâ€™s a very different thing to engage what is true or real in a complexity framework than it is to engage in it, in what is a modernist Western enlightenment ambition, to identify the absolute objective properties that are intrinsic in any given thing. Everyone is grappling with the fact that the world is exhibiting itself so much in these entanglements of relationships. The arts are completely at home in that world. And so, weâ€™ve been sort of under the thumb of the old world. Weâ€™ve always been a kind of second-class citizen in an enlightenment rationalist society. But once we move out of that world and we move into a complexity framework, suddenly the arts are entirely at home and we have capacity in that world that a lot of other sectors donâ€™t have. What Iâ€™ve been trying to do with this report (Art and the World After This) is articulate the way in which these different disruptions are putting us in a very different reality and itâ€™s a reality in which we go from being a kind of secondary entertaining class to, maybe, having a capacity to sit at the heart of a lot of really critical problem-solving challenges.david maggs, conscient podcast, march 25, 2021, vancouver
David MaggsÂ grew up in Corner Brook, Newfoundland and spent much of his developmental years as a classical pianist. In 2002, David foundedÂ Gros Morne Summer Music, a music festival that has grown into a year-round interdisciplinary arts festival.Â As an academic, Maggs addresses issues of culture and sustainability. His paper,Â Art and the World After This, was published by the Metcalf Foundation on April 28, 2021, which I encourage everyone to read and circulate. Also of interest is hisÂ Metcalf Innovation Fellow David Maggs writes about arts and COVID for new collaboration with The Philanthropist.
e30 maggs was recorded in Quichena Park, Vancouver on March 25, 2021. It was my first recording of season 2 so you might hear some nervousness and excitement in my voice (David was very calm, thankfully).
David and I exchanged on a wide range of issues including connections between artistic capacity and sustainability issues, â€˜realityâ€™, how the arts sector can rethink its unique value proposition, disruption, indigenous knowledge, the recovery of the arts sector after the covid crisis, etc.
As I did in all episode in season 2, I integrated excerpts from e19 reality into this episode as interludes.
I would like to thank David for taking the time to speak with me, for sharing his deep knowledge of cultural and sustainability policy and for his vision of a much larger role for the arts sector in the climate emergency.
For more information on Davidâ€™s work, see https://greattransition.org/contributor/david-maggs
e30 maggs (traduction)
La complexitÃ© est le monde construit de relations et câ€™est une chose trÃ¨s diffÃ©rente de sâ€™engager dans ce qui est vrai ou rÃ©el dans un cadre de complexitÃ© que de sâ€™y engager, dans ce qui est une ambition occidentale moderniste, de lâ€™Ã©poque des LumiÃ¨res (enlightenment), dâ€™identifier les propriÃ©tÃ©s objectives absolues qui sont intrinsÃ¨ques Ã toute chose donnÃ©e. Tout le monde est aux prises avec le fait que le monde sâ€™expose tellement dans ces enchevÃªtrements de relations. Les arts sont complÃ¨tement Ã lâ€™aise dans ce monde. Et donc, nous avons Ã©tÃ© en quelque sorte sous la coupe de lâ€™ancien monde. Nous avons toujours Ã©tÃ© une sorte de citoyen de seconde classe dans une sociÃ©tÃ© rationaliste de lâ€™Ã©poque des LumiÃ¨res. Mais une fois que nous sortons de ce monde et que nous entrons dans un cadre de complexitÃ©, les arts sont tout Ã fait Ã leur place et nous avons une capacitÃ© dans ce monde que beaucoup dâ€™autres secteurs nâ€™ont pas. Ce que jâ€™ai essayÃ© de faire avec ce rapport (Art and the World After This), câ€™est dâ€™articuler la maniÃ¨re dont ces diffÃ©rentes perturbations nous placent dans une rÃ©alitÃ© trÃ¨s diffÃ©rente, une rÃ©alitÃ© dans laquelle nous passons dâ€™une sorte de classe secondaire de divertissement Ã , peut-Ãªtre, une capacitÃ© Ã prendre notre place au cÅ“ur de la rÃ©solution dâ€™un grand nombre de problÃ¨mes vraiment critiques.david maggs, balado conscient, 25 mars 2021, vancouver
David Maggs a grandi Ã Corner Brook, Ã Terre-Neuve, et a passÃ© une grande partie de ses annÃ©es de dÃ©veloppement en tant que pianiste classique. En 2002, il a fondÃ© Gros Morne Summer Music, un festival de musique qui est devenu un festival dâ€™arts interdisciplinaires ouvert toute lâ€™annÃ©e. En tant quâ€™universitaire, M. Maggs sâ€™intÃ©resse aux questions de culture et de durabilitÃ©. Son article, Art and the World After This, a Ã©tÃ© publiÃ© par la Metcalf Foundation le 23 avril 2021. Jâ€™encourage tous Ã le lire et Ã le faire circuler. Il est Ã©galement intÃ©ressant de noter que son Metcalf Innovation Fellow David Maggs writes about arts and COVID for new collaboration with The Philanthropist.
e30 maggs a Ã©tÃ© enregistrÃ© au parc Quichena, Ã Vancouver, le 25 mars 2021. Câ€™Ã©tait mon premier enregistrement de la saison 2 du balado conscient, vous pouvez donc entendre un peu de nervositÃ© et dâ€™excitation dans ma voix (David Ã©tait trÃ¨s calme, heureusement).
David et moi avons Ã©changÃ© sur un large Ã©ventail de sujets, notamment les liens entre la capacitÃ© artistique et les questions de durabilitÃ©, la â€œrÃ©alitÃ©â€, la faÃ§on dont le secteur artistique peut repenser sa proposition de valeur unique, la perturbation, le savoir autochtone, le redressement du secteur artistique aprÃ¨s la crise COVID, etc.
Comme je lâ€™ai fait dans tous les Ã©pisodes de cette 2 saison, jâ€™ai intÃ©grÃ© des extraits de e19 reality dans cet Ã©pisode comme interludes.
Je tiens Ã remercier David dâ€™avoir pris le temps de sâ€™entretenir avec moi, dâ€™avoir partagÃ© ses connaissances approfondies en matiÃ¨re de politique culturelle et de durabilitÃ© et dâ€™avoir exprimÃ© sa vision dâ€™un rÃ´le beaucoup plus important pour le secteur artistique dans le cadre de lâ€™urgence climatique.
Pour en savoir plus sur le travail de David, voir https://greattransition.org/contributor/david-maggs
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About the Concient Podcast from Claude Schryer
The conscient podcast / balado conscient is a series of conversations about art, conscience and the ecological crisis. This podcast is bilingual (in either English or French). The language of the guest determines the language of the podcast. Episode notes are translated but not individual interviews.
I started the conscient project in 2020 as a personal learning journey and knowledge sharing exercise. It has been rewarding, and sometimes surprising.
The term â€˜conscientâ€™ is defined as â€˜being aware of oneâ€™s surroundings, thoughts and motivationsâ€™. My touchstone for the podcast is episode 1, e01 terrified, based on an essay I wrote in May 2019, where I share my anxiety about the climate crisis and my belief that arts and culture can play a critical role in raising public awareness about environmental issues. The conscient podcast / balado conscient follows up on my http://simplesoundscapes.ca (2016â€“2019) project: 175, 3-minute audio and video field recordings that explore mindful listening.
Season 1 (May to October 2020) explored how the arts contribute to environmental awareness and action. I produced 3 episodes in French and 15 in English. The episodes cover a wide range of content, including activism, impact measurement, gaming, arts funding, cross-sectoral collaborations, social justice, artistic practices, etc. Episodes 8 to 17 were recorded while I was at the Creative Climate Leadership USA course in Arizona in March 2020 (led by Julieâ€™s Bicycle). Episode 18 is a compilation of highlights from these conversations.
Season 2 (March 2021 â€“ ) explores the concept of reality and is about accepting reality, working through ecological grief and charting a path forward. The first episode of season 2 (e19 reality) mixes quotations from 28 authors with field recordings from simplesoundscapes and from my 1998 soundscape composition, Au dernier vivant les biens. One of my findings from this episode is that â€˜I now see, and more importantly, I now feel in my bones, â€˜the state of things as they actually existâ€™, without social filters or unsustainable stories blocking the wayâ€™. e19 reality touches upon 7 topics: our perception of reality, the possibility of human extinction, ecological anxiety and ecological grief, hope, arts, storytelling and the wisdom of indigenous cultures. The rest of season 2 features interviews with thought leaders about their responses and reactions to e19 reality.
my professional services
Iâ€™ve been retired from the Canada Council for the Arts since September 15, 2020 where I served as a senior strategic advisor in arts granting (2016-2020) and manager of the Inter-Arts Office (1999-2015). My focus in (quasi) retirement is environmental issues within my area of expertise in arts and culture, in particular in acoustic ecology. Iâ€™m open to become involved in projects that align with my values and that move forward environmental concerns. Feel free to email me for a conversation : firstname.lastname@example.org
acknowledgement of eco-responsibility
I acknowledge that the production of the conscient podcast / balado conscient produces carbon. I try to minimize this carbon footprint by being as efficient as possible, including using GreenGeeks as my web server and acquiring carbon offsets for my equipment and travel activities from BullFrog Power and Less.
a word about privilege and bias
While recording episode 19 â€˜realityâ€™, I heard elements of â€˜privilegeâ€™ in my voice that I had not noticed before. It sounded a bit like â€˜ecological mansplainingâ€™. I realize that, in spite of good intentions, I need to work my way through issues of privilege (of all kinds) and unconscious bias the way I did through ecological anxiety and grief during the fall of 2020. My re-education is ongoing.
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