Climate change is actually a cultural issue, not a scientific issue. Science has been extremely good at identifying the symptoms and looking at the way in which it has manifest itself, but it hasnâ€™t really addressed any of the issues in terms of the causes. It has tried to use what you might call techno fix solution focused problem-based approaches to the situation, rather than actually asking deep questions and listening.david haley, conscient podcast, may 6, 2021, united kingdom
We now need aesthetics to sensitize us to other ways of life and we need artists to sensitize us to the shape of things to come.
I was hooked on his thinking and was enchanted when we had a conversation on May 6, 2021. For example:
Going back to reality, one of the issues that we are not tackling is that weâ€™re taking a dystopian view upon individual activities that creates guilt, syndromes, and neuroses which of course means that the systems of power are working and in terms of actually addressing the power â€“ of speaking truth to power â€“ we need to name the names, we need to name Standard Oil, IG Farben who now call themselves ESSO, Chevron, Mobil, DuPont, BP, Bayer, Monsanto BASF, Pfizer and so on. These are the people that control the governments that we think weâ€™re voting for and the pretense of democracy that follows them. Until those organizations actually rescind their power to a regenerative way of doing and thinking, weâ€™re stuffed, to put pretty bluntly.
I was also touched by his idea of â€˜space as habitat for new ways of thinkingâ€™ (which made me think of the adage â€˜do no harmâ€™):
What I have learned to do, and this is my practice, is to focus on making space. This became clear to me when I read,Â Lila : An inquiry into moralsÂ by Robert Pirsig. Towards the end of the book, he suggests that the most moral act of all, is to create the space for life to move onwards and it was one of those sentences that just rang true with me, and Iâ€™ve held onto that ever since and pursued the making of space, not the filling of it. When I say I work with ecology, I try to work with whole systems, ecosystems. The things within an ecosystem are the elements with which I try to work. I try not to introduce anything other than what is already there. In other words, making the space as habitat for new ways of thinking, habitat for biodiversity to enrich itself, habitat for other ways of approaching things. I mean, thereâ€™s an old scientific adage about nature abhors a vacuum, and that vacuum is the space as I see it.
As I did with all episodes this season, I have integrated excerpts from previous episodes in this case, from e19 reality in this episode, including moments of silence.
I would like to thank David for taking the time to speak with me, for sharing his deep knowledge of ecological art practices, his insights as an eco educator and for his vision of a path forward that â€˜creates spaceâ€™.
For more information on Davidâ€™s work, see www.Davidhaley.uk
- David Haley, Going beyond Earthly
- The Clock of the Long Now : The Ideas Behind the Worldâ€™s Slowest Computer by Stewart Brand
- Lila : An inquiry into morals by Robert Pirsig
- Greenhouse Britain, by Helen Mayer Harrison and Newton Harrison and the Harrison Studio & Associates Britain
Le changement climatique est en fait une question culturelle, et non une question scientifique. La science a Ã©tÃ© extrÃªmement efficace pour identifier les symptÃ´mes et examiner la faÃ§on dont il se manifeste, mais elle nâ€™a pas vraiment abordÃ© les questions relatives aux causes. Elle a essayÃ© dâ€™utiliser ce que lâ€™on pourrait appeler des approches â€˜techno-solutionsâ€™, centrÃ©es sur les problÃ¨mes, plutÃ´t que de poser des questions profondes et dâ€™Ã©couter.david haley, balado conscient, 6 mai 2021, royaume-uni
Jâ€™ai dÃ©couvert le travail de David Haley en tant quâ€™artiste et Ã©ducateur Ã©cologique par le biais du Eco Art Network, notamment son essai Going beyond Earthly, dont jâ€™ai tirÃ© cette citation dans e20 rÃ©alitÃ© :
Nous avons maintenant besoin de lâ€™esthÃ©tique pour nous sensibiliser Ã dâ€™autres modes de vie et nous avons besoin des artistes pour nous sensibiliser Ã la forme des choses Ã venir.
Jâ€™ai Ã©tÃ© accrochÃ© Ã sa pensÃ©e et jâ€™ai Ã©tÃ© enchantÃ© lorsque nous avons eu une conversation le 6 mai 2021. Par exemple :
Pour revenir Ã la rÃ©alitÃ©, lâ€™un des problÃ¨mes que nous nâ€™abordons pas est que nous adoptons une vision dystopique des activitÃ©s individuelles qui crÃ©e de la culpabilitÃ©, des syndromes et des nÃ©vroses, ce qui signifie bien sÃ»r que les systÃ¨mes de pouvoir fonctionnent et, pour ce qui est de sâ€™attaquer rÃ©ellement au pouvoir â€“ de dire la vÃ©ritÃ© au pouvoir â€“ nous devons nommer les noms, nous devons nommer la Standard Oil, IG Farben qui sâ€™appelle maintenant ESSO, Chevron, Mobil, DuPont, BP, Bayer, Monsanto BASF, Pfizer, etc. Ce sont ces gens qui contrÃ´lent les gouvernements pour lesquels nous pensons voter et le simulacre de dÃ©mocratie qui les suit. Tant que ces organisations nâ€™auront pas abandonnÃ© leur pouvoir au profit dâ€™une maniÃ¨re rÃ©gÃ©nÃ©ratrice de faire et de penser, nous sommes fichus, pour dire les choses crÃ»ment.
Jâ€™ai Ã©galement Ã©tÃ© touchÃ© par son idÃ©e de â€œlâ€™espace comme habitat pour de nouvelles faÃ§ons de penserâ€ (ce qui mâ€™a fait penser Ã lâ€™adage â€œne pas faire de malâ€) :
Ce que jâ€™ai appris Ã faire, et câ€™est ma pratique, câ€™est de me concentrer sur la crÃ©ation dâ€™un espace. Cela mâ€™est apparu clairement lorsque jâ€™ai luÂ la :Â Lila : An inquiry into moralsÂ de Robert Pirsig. Vers la fin du livre, il suggÃ¨re que lâ€™acte le plus moral de tous est de crÃ©er lâ€™espace nÃ©cessaire Ã la vie pour aller de lâ€™avant. Câ€™est lâ€™une de ces phrases qui mâ€™ont semblÃ© vraies, et jâ€™y ai adhÃ©rÃ© depuis lors, en cherchant Ã crÃ©er de lâ€™espace, et non Ã le remplir. Quand je dis que je travaille avec lâ€™Ã©cologie, jâ€™essaie de travailler avec des systÃ¨mes entiers, des Ã©cosystÃ¨mes. Les choses au sein dâ€™un Ã©cosystÃ¨me sont les Ã©lÃ©ments avec lesquels jâ€™essaie de travailler. Jâ€™essaie de ne rien introduire dâ€™autre que ce qui est dÃ©jÃ lÃ . En dâ€™autres termes, faire de lâ€™espace un habitat pour de nouvelles faÃ§ons de penser, un habitat pour que la biodiversitÃ© sâ€™enrichisse, un habitat pour dâ€™autres faÃ§ons dâ€™aborder les choses. Il y a un vieil adage scientifique qui dit que la nature a horreur du vide, et ce vide est lâ€™espace tel que je le vois.
Comme je lâ€™ai fait pour tous les Ã©pisodes de cette saison, jâ€™ai intÃ©grÃ© des extraits dâ€™Ã©pisodes prÃ©cÃ©dents; dans ce cas, de e19 reality dans cet Ã©pisode, y inclut des moments de silence.
Je tiens Ã remercier David dâ€™avoir pris le temps de sâ€™entretenir avec moi, de partager sa connaissance approfondie des pratiques dâ€™art Ã©cologique, ses idÃ©es en tant quâ€™Ã©co-Ã©ducateur et sa vision dâ€™une voie Ã suivre qui â€œcrÃ©e de lâ€™espaceâ€.
Pour plus dâ€™informations sur le travail de David, consultez le site www.Davidhaley.uk .
- David Haley, Going beyond Earthly
- The Clock of the Long Now : The Ideas Behind the Worldâ€™s Slowest Computer par Stewart Brand
- Lila : An inquiry into morals par Robert Pirsig
- Greenhouse Britain, par Helen Mayer Harrison et Newton Harrison et le Harrison Studio & Associates Britain
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About the Concient Podcast from Claude Schryer
The conscient podcast / balado conscient is a series of conversations about art, conscience and the ecological crisis. This podcast is bilingual (in either English or French). The language of the guest determines the language of the podcast. Episode notes are translated but not individual interviews.
I started the conscient project in 2020 as a personal learning journey and knowledge sharing exercise. It has been rewarding, and sometimes surprising.
The term â€˜conscientâ€™ is defined as â€˜being aware of oneâ€™s surroundings, thoughts and motivationsâ€™. My touchstone for the podcast is episode 1, e01 terrified, based on an essay I wrote in May 2019, where I share my anxiety about the climate crisis and my belief that arts and culture can play a critical role in raising public awareness about environmental issues. The conscient podcast / balado conscient follows up on my http://simplesoundscapes.ca (2016â€“2019) project: 175, 3-minute audio and video field recordings that explore mindful listening.
Season 1 (May to October 2020) explored how the arts contribute to environmental awareness and action. I produced 3 episodes in French and 15 in English. The episodes cover a wide range of content, including activism, impact measurement, gaming, arts funding, cross-sectoral collaborations, social justice, artistic practices, etc. Episodes 8 to 17 were recorded while I was at the Creative Climate Leadership USA course in Arizona in March 2020 (led by Julieâ€™s Bicycle). Episode 18 is a compilation of highlights from these conversations.
Season 2 (March 2021 â€“ ) explores the concept of reality and is about accepting reality, working through ecological grief and charting a path forward. The first episode of season 2 (e19 reality) mixes quotations from 28 authors with field recordings from simplesoundscapes and from my 1998 soundscape composition, Au dernier vivant les biens. One of my findings from this episode is that â€˜I now see, and more importantly, I now feel in my bones, â€˜the state of things as they actually existâ€™, without social filters or unsustainable stories blocking the wayâ€™. e19 reality touches upon 7 topics: our perception of reality, the possibility of human extinction, ecological anxiety and ecological grief, hope, arts, storytelling and the wisdom of indigenous cultures. The rest of season 2 features interviews with thought leaders about their responses and reactions to e19 reality.
my professional services
Iâ€™ve been retired from the Canada Council for the Arts since September 15, 2020 where I served as a senior strategic advisor in arts granting (2016-2020) and manager of the Inter-Arts Office (1999-2015). My focus in (quasi) retirement is environmental issues within my area of expertise in arts and culture, in particular in acoustic ecology. Iâ€™m open to become involved in projects that align with my values and that move forward environmental concerns. Feel free to email me for a conversation : email@example.com
acknowledgement of eco-responsibility
I acknowledge that the production of the conscient podcast / balado conscient produces carbon. I try to minimize this carbon footprint by being as efficient as possible, including using GreenGeeks as my web server and acquiring carbon offsets for my equipment and travel activities from BullFrog Power and Less.
a word about privilege and bias
While recording episode 19 â€˜realityâ€™, I heard elements of â€˜privilegeâ€™ in my voice that I had not noticed before. It sounded a bit like â€˜ecological mansplainingâ€™. I realize that, in spite of good intentions, I need to work my way through issues of privilege (of all kinds) and unconscious bias the way I did through ecological anxiety and grief during the fall of 2020. My re-education is ongoing.
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